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I am looking for information on my great-great grandfather William Russell who was born in Bay Roberts/Coley’s Point in 1840. I am trying to determine the names of his parents or any other information. I am not sure of his date of death for certain. I have found two William’s born in 1840. One died November 24, 1892 and the other May 25, 1918. The one who died in 1918 was married to a Mary. My great-great grandmother was Elizabeth so the William who died in 1918 would not be my great-great grandfather.
William was married twice, January 2, 1870 and May 10, 1874 both times to an Elizabeth. That sounds odd but I have been able to confirm through my great-great grandmother‘s obituary in the Bay Roberts Guardian June 1923 that five children were were left. Jane Marie (married name Cooper) from the first marriage and three sons from the second marriage Stephen (my great grandfather), William and Azariah. The fifth child I only have a married name, Mrs. William Mercer.
A bit of speculation, William may have had a brother Isaac and a sister or sister in law Mary Ann. Any information would be great. Also, if anyone is looking for information on a Russell ancestor from the area I have recorded a fair amount of information in my own notes over the years and would be happy to answer any inquiries.
Thanks, Wade
Friday, September 25, 1914
Died on Friday, Sept. 18th, Elizabeth, widow of the late William RUSSELL, aged 76 years. Funeral took place to the Methodist Cemetery on Monday.Obituary – There passed peacefully away on Thursday, Sept. 17th, at her residence, Coley’s Point, Priscilla FRADSHAM, widow of the late Joseph Fradsham, leaving to mourn their loss two sons, Horatio and Henry James, residing at Coley’s Point, and two daughters, Mrs. John Moore of Bay Roberts, and Mrs. John Batten, Salmon Cove, Cupids, also 13 grandchildren and seven great-grandchildren. The funeral took place Saturday to the S.A. Cemetery.
http://ngb.chebucto.org/Newspaper-Obits/guardian-1913.shtml
You may want to revisit your theory that William was married twice based on link above.
NB Azariah Russell, a son of William and Elizabeth, married Henrietta Fradsham, a daughter of Horatio who is mentioned above.
Thank you Geoff for this information. I have been away from my research for a few weeks but will certainly look into this information.
Hi Wade,
We are likely related. I have spent some time on this line as I have a DNA connection through to William and wife Elizabeth Mercer married in 1870, via their son Azariah.
I have also concurred with Geoff (particularly based on the obituary of Elizabeth in 1914) that your William only married once. The obituary Geoff shared can be further complemented by the following notice a month earlier:
Aug 1914, Bay Roberts Guardian: Mrs. Elizabeth Russell, widow of the late Wm. Russell, was taken to the Lunatic Asylum by Const. Wells on Friday last for treatment.
So, the poor woman likely had a tough last month, and the absence of notifications about families in either of these clippings suggests there were none. And what it also indicates is that there were 2 Williams of the same vintage that married an Elizabeth, widow Mercer in this case.
Then there was a 3rd William Russell of the same vintage that died in 1918, and was married to Mary Fradsham, agreed he was not your ancestor.
Don’t you wish they were more creative in naming — way too many William, Elizabeth, Mary, etc names!
I have 95% certainty that your William was the son of an Abraham and his first wife Susanna, based on corroborating evidence.
If you are back to researching, then let me know. My Frances Russell born about 1823 is a mystery I have been working on!
Regards,
CarolBtw, the unknown 5th child Mrs William Mercer was Elizabeth 1874-1961.
Hi Carol, thank you so much for your response and this information. I agree, more creative naming would have helped as well as middle names! Your Azariah would be my great grandfather’s brother. He was born December 1, 1883 and died May 8, 1950 and is buried in the Pentecostal cemetery in Bay Roberts. I visited his grave a few years back with my Uncle.
I was convinced that my great great Grandfather was married twice but I am revisiting that based on the information you and Grant have provided. Thanks as well for the information on the 5th child, that is one of the possibilities that I had in my notes.
I will post again once I do a bit more research.
Wade another piece for the puzzle. Hi Carol, long time no hear. I trust all is well.
Bay Roberts Guardian
Friday, June 15, 1923 pageObituary – There passed away at Coley’s Point on June 12th, Mrs. ELIZABETH RUSSELL. The deceased lady was in apparent good health until stricken with paralysis at the home of her son. She leaves three sons, William, Azariah and Stephen Russell and two daughters, Mrs. Wm. Mercer of this town and Mrs. Adjt. Geo. Cooper of Toronto, Can. Also two brothers to mourn their sad loss. Interment was made in the Church of England cemetery on June 14th.
http://sites.rootsweb.com/~cannf/cbnorth_norguardian1920a.htm
NGB Death Register indicates this Elizabeth was age 79 at death so born circa 1844. She was the mother of your Azariah.
The previous Elizabeth who died 1914 was age 76 so born a tad earlier circa 1838.
Hi Geoff, thanks, yes I had located that obituary in the Bay Roberts Guardian. That is my great great grandmother. The son Stephen listed in the obituary is my great grandfather and his two brothers and sisters. I am fortunate to still have two uncles and one aunt on my fathers side who have been able to assist with some family information.
Therefore I am certain that the Elizabeth who died June 15, 1923 is my great great grandmother. The one who died in 1914 is not. From census records in 1921 my great great grandmother was living with her son Azariah and before that in 1911 she was living with her daughter Mrs. Cooper in Toronto.
I am having trouble with my great great grandfather though. As Carol mentions there were 3 Williams of that vintage. I am working on that now. My aunt believes he was born around 1840 and I have concluded that he likely died before 1911 as my great great grandmother was living with her daughter at that time.
Thanks again to you and Carol, this is assisting me greatly, I will post again soon. By the way Carol, how are you related to Azariah. Just curious if you have figured that out. I guess Azariah would be my Great Great Uncle.
Wade
Still seeking information on my great-great grandfather William Russell’s parents or any other information. He was born in Coley’s Point/Bay Roberts in 1840 and married Elizabeth Mercer January 2, 1870. Children Jennie/Jane, Elizabeth, Stephen, William and Azariah.
Carol & Geoff, I hope you are still monitoring these posts. Geoff, thanks for the information on the marriages of William. That was very helpful. I have periodically over the last couple of years continued my research and developed information going back to William in 1840 and information about Russells in the area in the 1700s and the early 1800s but cannot connect my William to the earlier information.
Carol, you mentioned that you were 95% certain that my William was the son of Abraham and his wife Susanna. Could you point me to the source of that information. I found an Abraham born 1812 and died June 5, 1892. He had four children (Abraham, Ellen, Susanna & John) but no William.
Good Morning,
I was wondering if anyone had information on the parents of Patience Russell b Aug 1852 Coley’s Point and who married John Bowering in 1875.As well, I believe that Amelia Russell b. 1852 married a Charles “Thomas” Kearley.
I was trying to see if there was a connection between the two Russell ladies.
Does anyone had a connection?
I have a lot of information on both the Kearley family and the Bowering’s.GailHi Gail,
Here are the 2 baptisms:
Born Aug 27 1852, baptized Feb 27 1853 Patience of Isaac and Patience Russell Coley’s Point (M Blackmore). Patience is née Badcock.
Born Oct 18, baptized Dec 15 1850 Amelia of Isaac and Martha Russell Bay Roberts (M Blackmore). Martha is née Parsons.
A connection between them is that Patience’ brother Stephen married Amelia’s sister Esther.
Carol
I am trying to find details related to the family of my great grandfather Charles Russell who was born in Bay Roberts on or about 1867. The only information I have on his parents indicate his father William Russell born about 1840, and his mother Rebecca, maiden name unknown. Charles married Lavinia Chinn from “George’s Bay” (??), who passed away in 1917 and subsequently married Martha Jane Messervey in 1918 in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Charles’ son Herbert, my grandfather, was born in Parrsboro Nova Scotia in 1893.
Hi Don,
Charles was the son of William Russell and Rebecca Snow/Bradbury (she is expected to be a widow); here is their marriage from the provincial archives:
Nov 18 1857 William Russell & Rebecca Bradbury both of Bay Roberts, witnesses Stephen Russell & Edward Snow, M Blackmore clergy.
While the marriage record states Rebecca is surname Bradbury, there are marriage records in the US for 4 of her children that state their mother’s née as Snow. Her marital status was not given on the marriage record, but I expect she was née Snow and widow Bradbury. Alternatively, her name might simply have been recorded wrong in the marriage record — it did happen back in the day unfortunately.
Charles was the 4th of 11 documented children of this couple, and was born either Sept 6, 1866 (baptism record) or Sept 10, 1866 (according to his death record.)
Seems that William was the son of Abraham Russell, born about 1829. While William and family were originally of Bay Roberts, they moved on to Country Road later in the mid/late 1800’s as did many families, and William can be found there with his 2 eldest sons (your Charles had already moved to NS) in the 1889 Voter’s Lists:
1889 VL: William, age 60, so born about 1829, son of Abraham; John, age 27, so born about 1862, son of William; William, age 25, so born about 1864, son of William. The ages of his 2 sons line up reasonably to their birth records.
Rebecca was born about 1838; she died in Country Road May 4, 1910 at age 73.
Regards,
CarolPS Martha Jane was widow Messervey; she was née Rose from Burgeo.
Hi Carol:
Thank you for your very detailed and essential information on my Mother’s family, the Russells. I must confess to playing catch-up as I didn’t know much of the family history until recently. The Bradbury connection is interesting albeit from an arms length perspective. While living in St. John’s in the 70’s, a very good friend was Jack Bradbury from BR, and we spent a lot of time at his family home there visiting his parents. Thank you again for your assistance, it is very much appreciated.
Regards
Don
Hi Carol:
During your research have you run into an Isaac and Patience Russell, and if so is it possible they are William’s parents. Thanks
Don
Hi again Don,
I have come across them. That would be Isaac Russell and Patience Badcock, married Dec 5, 1837. This line was centered in Coley’s Point; all children were born there.
Their William would not be your William.
Isaac and Patience had 2 sons and 4 daughters, including their son William that you mention. This William married Mary Fradsham in 1868, and his life and the lives of his siblings are demonstrably intertwined. William and his brother Stephen remained in Coley’s Point, William dying there in May 1918. Three different Voters Lists confirm them as sons of Isaac, residing CP.
Regards,
Carol
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